we're reaching ouT...

yes...

Raleigh International Kuala Lumpur,

a youth development charity which aims to develop young people by empowering them on meaningful and long-lasting conservation and community projects. Raleigh runs expeditions around the world. These expeditions are divided into three phases: Adventure, Community and Environment, each lasting for three weeks..

is

REACHING OUT !!!!

to the Youth of Malaysia.... not only to Malaysians but people living in Malaysia...

Raleigh International KL is reaching out to the Youth through our Open Day.

It will be a one day event in

Klang Valley

When??

16 December 2006

Book yourself free on this day because we are throwing you a surprise with lots of fun with it!!!

Make sure you check out this blog soon enough for more updates....

The Marketing Team

Raleigh Regional Conference Committee

m: +60 16 411 5335

e: christallohps@yahoo.com

w: www.raleighinternational.org.my

firSt tiMe eVer in maLaYsia....

KUALA LUMPUR INTERNATIONAL BUSKERS' FESTIVAL '06

is coming to TOWN....

"For the first time in
Malaysia, the streets will be
where everyone and anyone can find
pulsating fun and pure street intertainment at a heart throbbing pace!"

Buskers' Grand Parade
- 2 December 2006
- 8:00 pm
- Dataran Merdeka
A parade of wackytainment !!!!
Free for ALL !!!

Buskers' Late Nite Madness
- 8 & 9 December 2006
- 12:00 am - 3:00am
- Asian Heritage Row & Jalan P. Ramlee
A bombardment of buskers around town!!!

Hope to see EVERYONE there this Saturday.... it's the first time ever to have such a grand INTERNATIONAL PARADE in MALAYSIA....

visit their official website for more informations: www.malaysiabuskers.com

been drawing lately...

why had i recently been so busy???... many had asked... coz i'm doing my AMGI...
wat's AMGI? Animation, Motion & Graphic Introduction... yes, it's juz an introduction subject to Animation & i can die dee...

If i'm not @ home drawing... means I'm busy @ home with Raleigh stuff or outside meeting over Raleigh stuff... *about*.. the Conference & the Christmas Party...

lately... i've been drawing alot... with my mouse... *click, click, click, click*....

this is what I had drew....

Background of a street....

The train with my name on it suppose to cross pass the Street *moving from Right towards left*.... will do the Animation in After Effects... for this.. I had juz finish drawing with Adobe Illustrator...

*Total time: I would say it took me 3 whole days to draw & a whole lot of motivation to kick my ass to start drawing it...

lots of motivation... lots... Yes, believe me lots... when there's people out there who kept sms-ing, MSN-ing, calling & everything else which connects me... - to go out for movies, lepak, yam char & even to a birthday dinner*this one still reasonable, kalo enggak, nanti aq d panggang*... when i'm still stuck with my last subject... to complete my DEGREE from the BLACK builDing...

and to call myself... a GRADUATE ....

but no longer a.... GRADUATE-TO-BE.... hahaha....

*Update soon... 1 more asgn to go... Lesser drawing in Adobe Illustrator but more to do in After Effects...

haPpy hoLidAys to the REST.....

my new eMaiL adDreSS...

dear all friends...

my old email address =====> p0ohz@yahoo.co.uk
is no longer in use. I think someone in college changed my PASSWORD... ....

so i no longer be able to log-in to that account ever again... *cross fingers I hope not*...

my NEW email address ======> christallohps@yahoo.com

please update your email Address book with my NEW email...

Thank you..
christalloh

my bLog....

is as Good as DEAD....

busy rushing assignments now...

be back in a week for more upDates....

speciaL dedicaTion...

to my lovely more than a decade friend, Eve Lee. Or I still call her Ling Jang, or what her family 'Ling'.
Calling you Ling Jang just makes me feel a older friend of yours. Eve is just the new calling...

She will be celebrating her 21st birthday toDay.......


You've always been truly a friend to me... At all times... Though thick & thin, sweet & sour, although at times there's still the bitter part... But our friendship will last forever.

We first became best of friends when we were in Standard 3, 9 years old. Both of us & another chubby girl named Dorothy, were best friends. But as time pass-by, somehow only me & Eve kept-in-touch. Maybe because my family pindah rumah next to her apartment block that year too.

Since then, we've always been close friends. Even though we were no longer in the same class in Standard 4 & 5. Same class in Standard 6 but we were kind of like drifted apart... I think till end of Form 2, because of CTC 1999, only we came back close. We were in difference class in Form 1, 2 & 3.

Although pre-camps for CTC 99 was quite rough, but somehow we manage to keep our friendship... One leads to another... camps... & more camps... We have the same interest... of camping... but somehow she kind of lack-off from camps from other schools... haha.. she prefers PFS... haha..

As in Form 4, we manage to get our asses into Form 4 Science. Although we both knew we're not the Science type, but we enjoyed it.. haha...

Me, still continue going to whatever camps that my school, CLS was invited. My name & Chrn's will always be in the list..

Anyway, back to Ling Jang... we've also now known as each other's family friend. Almost all my family members know her. I meant external family members too. haha...

Our stuff can just get jumbled up... even house numbers. Remember bo? When we were still in CLS, we can always remember each other's house number but not our own house numbers. *i even wrote ur house number when filling in forms & u wrote mine*. Then I'll ask you for my house number. *That time we still masih tak pakai mobile phone yet kay*

I juz miss our olden days... life is just filled with less worries...

At times you are always by my side... to think bout it, remember my 'accident day', i told you my cameron-uncle pass away, you were physically by-my-side. *that's the third time, you were with me when my mom told me relatives passed-away*... all 3 times we were together... what a coincident.....

May you have a Blessed 21st Birthday... & may alL your dreams come true...

gambar curi from your blog... i cant get a picture of us recently together... mostly because its either you're the one holding the cam or me... haha...


Take care always girl....


friends always,
christalloh

christal's nightmare....

of all things... accidents on roads are always nightmares....

while i was picking Eve up from her place, out side her apartment security house, i reversed; my back bumper knock into this *angry* guy's proton wira, just right above his back wheel.

it happens around 8:15pm

we both came down & saw his damages. eve saw the man but she juz stands there. My car was blocking the whole road. So i told him i drove out 1st. Then, eve juz walk towards my car... as i drove further & further... She told me the Wira guy did not came out, I was actually in my locked car, waiting for him. Mana tahu dunno where he went, so we both flee out of that area... for... dinner... haha...

*dunt think so the guy know eve, coz he did not see me & eve talk... haha...*

After dinner, when i went up to Eve's house to get some stuff from her, I wore a black jacket over my shirt. Takut the guy can recognise me.... * i actually cant regocnise him, coz it was dark & i was more concerned over his car damage then his face. haha. * But while walking to eve's apartment, she said she saw the guy, she cant really recognise him too. but we both cabut... haha...

i was still a bit takut over that incident.... after i left eve's place.

that was not the HIGHLIGHT of the story...

About 15 minutes after i left from Eve's place... while i was cutting lanes... Cant remember what road was that but the same road as Titiwangsa St. *hope i got the st.'s name right too*. I was cutting lanes while my car was at Halt before that. So i was moving very slow, I see my side mirror a few times before I cut lanes. Two motorbikes speed past me. The First one managed to pass through but the 2nd bike left handle knocks on my right side mirror.

BANG!!!!!!

I was still in my driver's seat position.
I was shocked to heard the big loud 'bang'.
I do not know to get down from the car, or not. Coz I was all alone in the dark.
I saw his bike & him turn together on the floor. *he claimed his helmet went off, which i wasn't sure coz i was too shocked*
I saw his bike & him came to a halt position.
I grab my mobile & went down from my car.
I locked my cars, incase some stupid idiot tries to curi stuff from my car. *although i remembered i've kept all valuebles in the bonet*
I asked the man is he alright. * I did not dared to touch him, incase might hurt him more* or he might have HIV, which is transmitted through open wounds.* Indians always look scary to me. I know i'm racist... Don't care!!!
He shooked his head. * I tooked it as a 'yes, i'm alright*
He request me to send him home.
I said go to the hospital.
He said his mom is a nurse.
I told him go hospital.
Atlast, I drove him back coz i've no idea where is the nearest hospital or clicnic or watsoever. *i'm so unfamiliar with that place*
As if a nurse mom can help you out.... -_-"
While i was driving, with him in the car, I was quite scared too. Some injured indian in my car, his friends help him took his bike & left the accident scene ...
All I could think of, is to call a friend & tell what happened to me & where am I going. *learned from watching movies & TVB series*
The hardest would be where am I going? Coz i've no idea where am I going.
I lived in Sentul Flat. * i think it's Sentul, not really sure too*
I shouted, Where is Sentul Flat? *incase he fainted, shout to keep him awake*
He told me the directions, only i realise i come to some dark housing flats area.
I start to feel a little panic.
So i called 'Kevin', my housemate....
The call went into his Voice Mail.
I'm like... Oh, SHIT!!!!... who else to call...
I remembered his brother, which is also my another housemate. * I cant remembered what happened but somehow i did not managed to get him too*.
Tried Kevin again but still cant get him
My 'Last 10 Called list' next name was "Adrian RIKL"
I juz called him & asked, "Are you still in KL?"
He said, "Yes." *Thankfully*
I blurted out what happened to me & what am I doing at the moment.
Trying to explain where am I heading to. Told him my surroundings.
I think he said he was at somewhere in BB Plaza at that time... did not really heard him also...
He said he can come over.
I asked for directions what to do.

I did all the 'callings' while I was driving & sending him.

Ofcourse I takut like gila la. All I could think of is to send him for medical attention first.
Reached his flat, its dark & no one seems to care about it. Two old fellas walk pass us. I asked him what to do?
He asked me to open the door for him. *coz i've already turn off the car engine.
His skin sweats, sure sweat la... Pain & takut...
I could see blood.
I wasn't really scared of the blood... but from what i saw earlier happened to him, I'm scared of his internal injuries lebih.
He bleeds... then only i realised... his blood kena my Pooh tissue box.
I quickly detached the hanging Pooh tissue box hanging behind & passes him some tissue to wipe off his blood first. *cis, mengotorkan Pooh aq je*



We waited at his flat's carpark... I do not know what was he waiting for? I grab my bag and sitted in the driver's seat continue calling for help!!!!

He then asked me to call some numbers... not sure who is it.. but i just dialled.

He went little unconcious while telling me the numbers halfway.
I panic bit.
But his friends appeared at the moment. Talk to him & stuff.
I continue calling people...
I called my mom.
I called my dad.
Texted Eve about it.
I called Adrian, to check if he knows the way.
Then out of a sudden, atleast 20 indians fella came out.
They all talked in Indian. I've no idea what they were saying.
But some seems angry although they're not involve at all.
I started praying to God and hope nothing goes wrong.
Since they talked in Indian, I talked to Adrian on the phone in Cantonese. *to make them wonder too, haha*

The injured guy, still lying on my back seat repeated himself, he do not want medical attention.
BODOH punya... sure badan sendiri ada tahi d... Do not want to go to hospital. *learned from TVB series*
I wanted to send them to GH but they insist to go to a private hospital.
Still trying to blame me that it's my fault.
Then I objected to go to a private hospital
I will not bear the medical cost. It's going to cost atleast almost RM 1K in a private hospital.
I know medical fees are expensive. *i see my grandparents go check-up already cost a few hundred bucks* & also my frequent visits to hospitals...
They insist to go to a private hospital still.
Then his friends marah-ed me for not sending him to hospital or clicnic.
I said your friend inside my car do not want to go. What can I do?
After more Indian talking, I drove off with 3 of his friends in my car to the nearest clinic.
While I drove off, one of the Indian outside kick hardly on my car.
One of the Indian in the car actually scoulded his friends for doing that.
While they were directing me to the nearest clinic, they actually told me not to worry.
They actually consulted me 'NOT TO WORRY'.
I continue driving and did not actually bother to talk to them too.
Only the 3rd clinic we reached is open, when the first 2 clinic we went wrote 24 HOURS but closed. bodoh punya.
They send him into the clinic ASAP and the doctor attended to him.
I stayed outside the clinic and called Adrian again.
To check if he's arriving soon.
Or he's lost.
I read him an adress I saw near the clinic.
Somehow, some pass-by Indian uncle told me the directions and I managed to tell him my location.
I still do not know where am I at the moment.
The surroundings aren't much to describe as there's not much landmark.

After minutes which seems hours to me... he finally appeared.
I was more relieved then.
After all the waiting & surrounded by lots of Indians which I do not know them here came someone I knew.
*all this while of trying to stay clam infront of the Indians, hoping they will not bully me*
I walk up calmly to him, although i'm still takut, kaget, worried & everything else.
He came out calmly from his car too with a pack of ciggies.
Then the Indians came bugging around us & introduced themselves to him. *weird huhh*
They wanted to befriended him & talk things out.
All started smoking awhile.
I just stood there and they talk a bit.

Then me, like 'lok hau kung', telling statement to police, I told Adrian what happened.
From the beginning to the end.
He somehow took it from there & talked to them.
Asked them what happened?
To listen to their side of the story.
They're trying to argue i'm in the wrong.
5 indians talking to 1 chinese.
Then they tried to overpower us by being loud.
But that seems impossible.
We are not fighting-things-out. We want to talk.
Then he asked them to send a representative to talk.
No more 1 talking to 5. Tired. Need to repeat the same things over 5 times.
So 1 volunteered....
Trying to talk things out. I somehow got tired over the talking & just sat on my car bonet.
No really listening to their conversation.
I've already told him what happened.
So he's my rep.... haha.

I was tired and hungry & still worried.
Then those indians asked us to go see his injured friend.
Adrian wanted to know his condition and talk to the doctor.
His fingers got fractured, need a few stiches on on his knee and 1 on his face. * as i could remember*

Moments later, Kevin arrived with Adrian's directions.

Kevin; my housemate, my God Brother, an insurance agent, a financial advisor.
Kevin listens to the conversation between Adrian & the other indians.
I told him the whole story.
Gave his point from 'Insurance' Point of View.
The best sollutions. Called a few of his friends for advises.
Called my mom and report to her about me.
Coz i'm still in quite shock condition talk on a phone.

The injured mother came. She seems educated.
She sounds really in the medical line. * a nurse*
The injured's brother seems educated too.
Both dont really seems to be over worried over the injured son.
Just hope he's still alive.
I think the mom dunt really have high hopes for this son too. haha.

The talking and waiting at the clinic ends around 1:00 AM.

The final solution was... we absorb the medical fees in the clinic, RM200 & pay up RM300.
Total sum was RM 500.

Bodoh punya SENTUL indians!!!.... But they cannot have any of our numbers & address.
They actually called a friend who works in a lawyer firm.
Earlier someone told me, he's a police, then when he introduce with his namecard or rather his boss's name card, only to know he handles such accident cases in a lawyer firm.
We still do no know what's his position. haha.

So after bayar, we have no connections at all with them.

Kevin's advice was also to settle with $$$ coz, his friends said if call in the cops, might stir up lots of trouble. They looks like Sentul Indians gangsters.

*and worst of for the night is, my driving license is expired*
yes i told both of my rep about it. that's why we did no went straight to the police.
but if his medical bills ends up more than RM500 or RM1K, we still will turn up to the police and claim insurance. Even though i kena fine.

Through out the whole night, the indians did not know my license is expired. They actually said out loud that the bike driver got license and everything from the beginning. But i suspect he doesn't. Coz he rather go home than to go for medical attention.

That's trying to get me to claim my insurance. For his bike. Coz as Kevin/Adrian * i cant rmbr again* told me, bike rarely buy third-pary insurance.

Another advice from Kevin, since my license is as good as dead, i can't claim third-party insurance for him too.

So concluded with the sum of $$$. And to avoid any other follow-ups from the Indians, we paid.
They even treaten to injured my car during the negociations of the sum to pay.

That's quite the whole story as I could remember. Trying to write as true as possible.



Special thanks to both the guy who came to my rescue.
Adrian & Kevin..... the heroes of the NIGHT!!!....
A sight preview of them both.



Above: Adrian

Below: Kevin

i would also like to take this apportunuty to thank all my friends for their concerns...

I'm still in one BIG piece. To those who sms-ed, called & MSN-ed.

Only my right side mirror gone & $$$ hilang. I've learned my lesson.

so that was my story... long winded huhh... dunt care... haha....

To the rest, drive safe... anywhere & everywhere...

When i reached home, My another housemate actually asked me, "Why you did not take pictures?"

I was too shocked and panic i think... haha.. should have took lots of pics...

Then can use them for my ROAD SAFETY CAMPAIGN... cis... no MOCK-UP... all real scene & BLOOD... hehehe...

i really regret for not taking pictures lo... Not even ONE!!!!!

For the mean time, I need help. Any one available tmrw morning to send me to JPJ to re-new my driving license? My car is not in the condition to drive out to KL City.

Please sms or call me.

Thanks lots for reading such a long post.

Ka Ki Lang....

CALLING all PEOPLE who can understand HOKKIEN...... or can read chinese... got chinese subtitle...
*no faking through, coz u wont understand a word if u dunt... hahaha...*

i'm sure everyone had watched or atleast know about the "Infernal Affairs series"

this is a self-cut version of Infernal Affairs 1, 2, & 3; combined to a Hokkien movie.
Re-recorded Voice Over in Hokkien *with lots of faul language*...

They are fighter over to get a CDPro 2.... some sound system...

they sounded like the character's own voices but... im not sure how genuine are they... should be fabricated... haha...

ENJOY!!!!




*it's being cut into a few parts.. click on it & get the rest of the parts from YouTube.com...

Kena TAGGED puLak

blog hopping around & i stumble upon szumei's blog. *kena tagged lo...*

A. Put your music player on shuffle.
B. Press forward for each question.
C. Use the song title as the answer to the question even if it doesnt make sense.
D. Tag 5 ppl at their tagboard to ask them to do this!
E. Bold the questions and with answers, give your own comments on how it relates to the questions...

1. How are you feeling today?
Eason Chan - Bike
ya, feel like running away... from all my assignments... cycling a bike in a countryside maybe a good idea

2. Will you get far in life?
Leo Ku - Nobita
yes, i get to go anywhere i want with Doraemon's pintu suka hati & laci... must b influence by Gabriel from Angels... haha.. *he's been reading Doraemon when i'm at Angels*

3. How do your friends see you?
Leo Ku - Love & Sincere
it explains it all.

4. Will you get married?
Eason Chan - Grievance
with grieve?...lol... i dunno...

6. What is the story of your life?
Vanessa william- Colours of the wind
my life will always filled with colours of the wind... new challenges every chapter of my life...

7. What was high school like?
Black Eyed Peas - The apl Song
hmm.... blur, just tag along what's happing around me & i enjoyed every bits of it... i miss my high school lots... shall drop by more often when im back in Penang.

8. How can you get ahead in life?
Eason Chan - 1874
hmm... leave back my past history & look ahead... no idea what 1874 is... mayb Year 1874... haha...

9. What is the best thing about your friends?
Ronan Keating - When You Say Nothing At All
yes, we truely understand each other *at times* when we do not need to speak it out lo... but there's still some blurness times.. where words cant even describe..

10. What is in store for this weekend?
Eason Chan - Years Are Like The Song (OST for Truimph In The Skies)
yes, we will need to do some panjat-ing this weekend. Paint a 2-storey wall of Angels Children's Home. To me climbing up its like "chung siong wan siew"... lol

11. What song describes you?
Diana Ross - Ain't No Mountain High Enough (Chicken Little Version)
if there's a will there's always a way. Go hike Mount K... that was my 1st try... haha...

12. To describe your grandparents?
Abby Mallard And Runt Of The Litter - Spice Girls 's Wannabe (Chicken Little Version)
they really wannabe everything.. but they had all the experience in life... can talk *or nag* non-stop about it.. haha.. but i do love to talk to them...

13. How is your life going?
Eason Chan - 'Sou Chi Yan Sang' *canton*
counting my life to continue...

14. What song will they play at your funeral?
Ronald Cheng - 'Mou Lai'
then all the guys will leave.. haha... or sedar diri... lol

15. Will you have a happy life?
Man Bai - Kau Ilhamku
with lots of ilham from You, i will have a happy life ahead...

16. What do your friends really think of you?
Leo Ku - Super Unique Skills *pit sat kei*
yes, i do have the super unique skills... all of us do...

17. Do people secretly lust after you?
911 - The Day We Find Love
how would i know? but that's till 'the day we find love'

18. How can I make myself happy?
Eason Chan - King of K Song 'K Kor Chi Wong'
by being the best K singer?... lol... then i will surely happy.. but i cant sing.. lol...

19. Will you ever have children?
Richand Marx - Right Here Waiting
so... its been right here waiting for me all this while... haha.. can have it 24/7... lol...

hehehe... now my turn to tag...
1. Eve Lee--- u cannot cabut dee
2. Amelia Apsari--- bs de-stress neh.. lol
3. Adrian Yeo --- can update ur blog d.. like surving on machine le ur blog
4. Matthew Kang --- hehehe...
5. Thomas Ting --- be happy... ur post seems to be getting too chim

happy being Tagged?.... hope u're as happy as i am... lol...


*other songs i'm listening now* which i like but ga sempat buet 'tag' ini seh...
Chicken Little - I am the Champion
Spice Girls - 2 Become 1
Crystal - dunno by who... its in Canton... can anyone please tell me the original singer?
Erick - Kerinduan * a nice song writen & played by my friend* Erick lama ga jumpa deh...

Take care everyone...

Raleigh International...

while i was surfing through Flickr for Raleigh International... i stumble upon this pic... love it lots..


Chile 06b

* click for source*

GRADUATION...

yes... i've received an unofficial email from my

YEAR LEADER

that we need to go campus tommorrow for our so called

GRADUATION photo SESSION

.... hahahaha.....

I'm a GRADUATE!!!!!!!

*happy happy*... enak nya.. bs photo graduasi even though im still not done...

even though i'm still stuck here trying to finish up my asgns as soon as possible,

but i've received email from my Year Leader to snap some Graduation pic?

What if we tak jadi finish the asgn?

...but...

Are we STILL considered as GRADUATES?

since we had already snapped our graduation pic.

...hahaha...

who cares!!!!

kecapekan yang worth it...

been busy and stress with assignments lately... to release stress... its best to do some painting... especially there is a big white wall to paint as you like... huahahhha...

this was before:-

*gambar curi dr Raleigh International KL's Blog*

painting with PELAKA is just like "the good old days"... i miss pre-camps lots... especially with the presents of my old buddy... eve... kena give credit to her also... being the 'LIGHT' of the night...

kalo tanpa flash light from her mobile, i dunt think so bs buat toning for the mural too.. huahahah....

she did painted the wall too... & cut the letters & play with the children... so special thanks to Eve on behalf of RIKL for helping out & stayed till 2:30am.

Eve even commented my painting is just so "me". when we were still in secondary school, those who likes arts have their own style of painting.. so.. mine its just... have this looks... *arg.... ga erti ga pa pa deh... *... lol...

as long as i'm very happy with it... & painting to release asgn stress is indeed a good way... *GRAFITY*... hahaha...

while we were painting in the dark, those car pass-by us might have thought we were "TAI YE LONGs"... splash Red paint for tak bayar hutang... mana tahu we painted with all our hearts...

*was actually too lazy to upload the pics.. but my blog post will look much better with it.. hahaha... *

so here are the pictures & candids.

*i painted the last flower on the right, the butterfly, some part of the grass the sun & the clouds...*

look life from a better perspective....

wahuahhahaha.....

happy news....
just got news from my friend that deadline for AMGI had been postpone to Week 17.
super happy now... have a more relieved heart & mind now....

can 'chun sam' finish up my CAD Pro. then my FTV, follow by my CAD Studio (photography, hate it when i need to do take pictures for asgn) & then lastly AMGI... huahahaha....

photography for fun is so niCE.... i like taking candid... but i'm juz too males to move my butt to take a better & nicer angle shots... huahahah... if mood good, then u'll be able to see better results la... below are juz some random candid for the week. It's been sooooo long since i last post-up random candid... huahaha... enjoy



picture error: 'they' = salah; 'there' = betul . lol.



an old photo of my 1st room in Cyberia. the messy masterbedroom. This room accomodate 3 gals with loads to stuff. lol....
1 a/c, 1 double decker, 1 matress on floor, 3 cupboard, 3 study table, 2 book racks & loads of clothes & accessories... huahaha... (now both of them sudah plg indo)


this is my private supir (driver). miss him much here. my 1st drift was from him *yes, using my lovely "Pooh Mobile". learn lots about my car abilities from him too. lol. he'll b back this Christmas.


the ability of my small Digital Camera back then. ahem *still using the same one now* ahem * Took it from the view-finder of my house door. lol.



Nokia was a HIT back then in 2003. Where everyone of us in RedBox was using a NOKIA. paling bagus also only a NOKIA 6610. By now, all those phone onwers had changed them to better & newer ones. I think le. None of them are still using these. *as seen on the pic above*

my past memories are random... lol...
be back soon... for more RANDOMs....